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I spend a fair bit of time over there on your side of the pond in the US - I live in the UK. Often getting revenge on my eldest son in Maryland for all the years he abused us - leaving his washi
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posted at 1/5/2012 6:34 PM EST
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First: 9/23/2006
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I spend a fair bit of time over there on your side of the pond in the US - I live in the UK.

Often getting revenge on my eldest son in Maryland for all the years he abused us - leaving his washing on the bedroom floor.

Opening the second carton of Tropicana - when the first one is still half full.

However - I dont want to tread on toes but a "Cultural Difference" is bugging me. 

Something I notice over there in the US and not here is:

"Which is the Best?"

If I ask for a good restaurant or beach or shopping mall or anything - then it always starts a heated debate amongst relatives because I have to have "The Best"

I've also noticed that on the Travel Forums its not allowed to have 2 or 3 "Best".

Hence all the Fans and Fertiliser.

Just a cultural observation.

But I'm scared to ask folks now.

Surely "Anytown USA" has a dozen Fine - Affordable - Pleasant Restaurants.  etc...

The concept of the "Best" of everything just leaves me shaking my head.

I just dont get it. Give me 3 or 4 good choices then I'm happy.

The "worst" I can understand.

Garry.UK

Re: "The Best of....."

posted at 1/5/2012 7:27 PM EST
Posts: 1888
First: 11/19/2004
Last: 5/21/2012
Garry, you and I don't agree on everything but on this issue I'm with you.  I wonder if the syndrome cannot be partly blamed on travel magazines and other media who've replaced real content with travel articles and whole issues of periodicals devoted to "The Best" of anything one can think of.  I've now cancelled my subscription to one in particular, Conde Nast Traveler, that almost seemed to consist of not much more.  I found it infuriating every time one landed in my mailbox, to think that I was paying for nothing but lists of high end hotels, various airlines and other useless material.  And the premise is so faulty in any case.  Best for whom?  Certainly not for any criteria I care about.

The second and a related category of fertilizer is the requests for "must sees" and "must dos" that we're subjected to around here.  I wish Frommer's could add an automatic delete feature anytime the word "must" appears.  I for one would be pleased.

Re: "The Best of....."

posted at 1/5/2012 10:28 PM EST
Posts: 2365
First: 12/25/2006
Last: 5/23/2012
I share a lot of that feeling, but I demur on the "must see" "must do" question, because I think it opens the opportunity for a dialog: "What's important to you? If you think about that, we can suggest things you might LIKE to see or do, rather than MUST."

I think the "10 Best" mania is closely related to the phenomenon that has changed movie journalism from "what was the movie like" to "how much did it gross this weekend?"--a topic that, in my childhood, was only of interest to people in the trade. As well, in the recent weeks of the Republican primary we've seen what seems like more coverage of the pollsters and what they say than of the candidates and what they are saying (or not).

It's sad...but superficiality and triviality seem to be the themes of the day. Drive past and take a picture. Check the book and go to the "best" restaurant. And miss the whole point of why we go about and poke at things and try to understand the people and world around us.

Sometimes I'm grateful for belonging to an older generation...

Re: "The Best of....."

posted at 1/5/2012 11:37 PM EST
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First: 11/19/2004
Last: 5/21/2012
If only it worked that way though - what you say, PHeymont, about opening a dialog.  More often than not, when the "must see" question is asked it seems to me that what's wanted is precisely what you describe starting with "It's sad".  Not what interests the asker, because they seem often enough to not really know why they're going to the place they ask about but are instead really asking "what is it I should be interested in, what's everyone else interested in so I can drive by and take that picture.  Isn't that what the "must" is about?  What "must" I be interested in so that I'll know I've been there?  World through the viewfinder?


Re: "The Best of....."

posted at 1/6/2012 7:53 AM EST
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First: 7/13/2009
Last: 5/20/2012
As a citizen of the offending country, I have to say I agree with you.   As a Psychology major, I'm always studying human behavior.  I've concluded (you all are going to help catch the tomatoes that will be thrown aren't you? LOL) that it's more of our collective obsession with 'control' than with making sure that everyone gets the best.   Our control obsession is maddening.  It began about 20 years ago and I keep hoping that it will burn itself out someday.  Of course, I could be wrong and my theory will certainly be challenged.  LOL

Re: "The Best of....."

posted at 1/6/2012 10:29 AM EST
Posts: 1776
First: 1/21/2010
Last: 1/22/2012
So Garry, does that mean I'm really not the World's Best Dad like my old Tee shirt says.LOL

I think some of Best of lists are fun because like PHeymont says about must sees and do's,they get the conversation started.

Several of the Between Bites blogs were like that  on here and I enjoyed peoples opinions of what they thought was the best Pizza in NYC or the Best Sandwich was.

Re: "The Best of....."

posted at 1/6/2012 1:00 PM EST
Posts: 2254
First: 9/23/2006
Last: 5/21/2012
Rob. You must be in the running for the Worlds Best Dad.

Like me - you've sent your son to live on the other side of the World to prove it. 

And I wouldn't dare disagree with your old Tee shirt.

But seriously - The Best of anything is subjective.

Thats why we dont all go to the same Resort on Vacation. Ride a bicylcle over the Golden Gate Bridge. Then try getting a cup of Tea in Starbucks.

"Can you tell me the Best Pub in the Cotswolds?" Its just so pointless.

"Can you tell me of a Good Pub with a Log Fire and Entertainment in January?" Certainly its .....

I've been recommended the Best Restaurant in Ocean City MD where the Servers are clearing the Table while I'm still eating. Major NO NO.

Like the Lady who wanted the Best way to Innsbruck Austria.

She didn't. She wanted the Cheapest, but she didn't want to change flights.

She just wanted ideas for Budget travel to Austria.

So - to recommend anything as Best is such an empty gesture - without a good reason to support your choice.

Garry.UK




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